Convention of the
States HJR1003 Bill of 2015
Otherwise known as
there is massive disagreement among conservatives, Tea Partiers, and
legislators on this bill. I have studied it and have piles of arguments
against it. I will just concentrate on a few common sense questions and
major points bulleted below and the proof that liberal organizations are also
calling for a Convention of the States – a new constitution is the liberals'
DREAM! For status of the bill see this link:
Sense Arguments against the Convention of the States
Justice Warren Burger on dangers of Convention of the States and list of
legal cases explaining that delegates can't be controlled.
Quotes from AR
Bill To Rescind a former Resolution for
Constitutional Convention - Yes Arkansas already has a resolution passed in
1979 House Joint Resolution 1, pursuant to Article V of the
Constitution of the US for the calling of a constitutional convention.
Democrats were FOR the convention, and Republicans
of about 32 Republicans in 2009 who voted to Rescind
This Resolution to call a constitutional convention pursuant to Article V,
many who are still in the legislature or recently term limited.
that leftist organizations supported by leftist billionaire George Soros are
also calling for a convention of the states pursuant to Article V, using the
same talking points as conservatives but for a different amendment.
GOP Leadership Passes Anti-Constitutional Convention Resolution" article
dated December 23, 2014.
Link to HJR1003 of 2015 -
Common Sense Arguments:
1. Say we do get the amendment to the
constitution just like true conservatives want it. The President and
Congress have flagrantly violated almost every part of our constitution in the
last several years. What guarantees will we have or what are the
odds the President, the Supreme Court, or bureaucrats will adhere to the
new amendment any more than they are now adhering to the Constitution?
So why gamble with an amendment when there is nothing wrong with our
constitution as is. If it's not broken, don't fix it.
2. We hear a great deal about how there will be
restrictions on the delegates, and they will have to do what they are told,
represent the people who sent them. Remember these delegates will come from
all states not just conservative states. If this election and mandate
for legislators in Arkansas to vote against the Private Option doesn't
wake us up, what could wake us up as to what delegates to the Convention of the
states might do? There will be 50 times the pressure on the delegates,
thousand times more money offered, and extensive threats against the delegates
themselves, as well as their spouses and children just as Scott Walker
experienced when he stood against the unions. This will be the opportunity of a
lifetime for the Democrats to fulfill their dream of changing our Constitution.
For delegates to stand against such odds as Scott Walker did is a chance in a
3. In 2009 it was the Democrats in Little Rock
who were pushing for the Constitutional Convention or Convention of the States.
4. The deception the delegates will have
to deal with will be MUCH greater than in Little Rock. The liberal media
will be hammering the public with all kinds of distortions and will frame the
5. Everyone knows that the liberals would
love nothing better than to officially change our written constitution. Language
may be so convoluted that even those delegates who want to do the right thing
will not recognize when they slip language in to suit the liberals' agenda.
6. Delegates from liberal states will be
present as well as conservative states.
Republicans Voted Against A Conventional Convention of Any Kind in 2009
(Names listed below)
Quotes by Supreme Court Justice Warren Burger and Supreme Court Findings
http://www.newswithviews.com/DeWeese/tom169.htm Tom DeWeese article
“And there is more
legal proof in support of the argument that delegates are not bound by any
instructions or resolutions from the states.
course, is the famous letter written by former Supreme Court Justice Warren
Burger to Phyllis Schlafly, President of Eagle Forum. In the letter Burger
writes, "...there is no effective way to limit or muzzle the actions of a
Constitutional Convention. The convention could make its own rules and set its
own agenda. Congress might try to limit the convention to one amendment or to
one issue, but there is no way to assure that the convention would obey. After a
convention is convened, it will be too late to stop the convention if we don’t
like its agenda. The meeting in 1787 ignored the limit placed by the
“And there is more
legal documentation...The following is the collection of findings regarding the
unlimited power of the delegates attending a Con Con. (From Corpus Jurus
Secundum 16 C.J.S. 9) “The members of a Constitutional Convention are the
direct representatives of the people (1) and, as such, they may exercise all
sovereign powers that are vesting in the people of the state. (2) They derive
their powers, not from the legislature, but from the people: (3) And, hence,
their power may not in any respect be limited or restrained by the legislature.
Under this view, it is a Legislative Body of the Highest Order (4) and may not
only frame, but may also enact and promulgate, Constitution. (5)” The
footnote numbers after the citation quoted reference the particular cases from
which the citations were made. (1) Mississippi (1892) Sproule v Fredericks (11
So. 472); (2) Iowa (1883) Koehler v Hill (14N.W. 738); (3) West Virginia (1873)
Loomis v Jackson (6 W. Va. 613); (4) Oklahoma (1907) Frantz v Autry (91 p. 193);
(5) Texas (1912) Cox v Robison (150 S.W. 1149).”
Clearly, the position
put forth by Fruth, and ALEC, that state legislatures can pass a resolution
dictating the rules of the Con Con is simply wrong.
Quotes from AR bill in 2009 calling for
rescinding vote for call of Constitutional Convention
quotes from a bill ( HCR1022)
all Republicans in the House voted for in 2009 (see names below) that
“rescinds its application for the calling of a
constitutional convention for any purpose because
“legal experts believe...the call of said convention, would have within the
scope of its authority the complete redrafting of the Constitution of the United
as well as for other stated reasons. The Democrats killed the bill. (In
other words the Democrats wanted to call the Convention of the States, not the
Republicans. Title of the bill in 2009:
Rescind The Previous Application By The General
Assembly To the Congress of the United States That It Call a Constitutional
Convention To Propose An Amendment to the Constitution
To Balance the Public Debt.”
This bill had about 15 Republican sponsors. Link to the bill:
WHEREAS, many legal experts believe that a convention, notwithstanding
limitation might be placed upon it by the call of said convention, would have
within the scope of its authority the complete redrafting of the Constitution of
the United States, thereby creating a great danger to the well-established
rights of our people and to the constitutional principles
we are presently governed; and
Constitution of the United States has been extensively
interpreted and has proven
to be a basically sound document which protects the freedom of all Americans;
there is no need for a new constitution, the adoption of which
create legal chaos in America and only begin the process of another two
centuries of litigation over its interpretation by the courts; and
such changes as may be needed in the present Constitution of
the United States may be proposed
and enacted by the well-established methods of amendment contained therein,
NOW THEREFORE, BE
IT RESOLVED BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE EIGHTY-SEVENTH GENERAL
OF THE STATE OF ARKANSAS, THE SENATE CONCURRING THEREIN:
THAT the General
Assembly does hereby rescind its application to the
the United States made by the General Assembly in 1979 by House Joint Resolution
1 pursuant to Article V of the Constitution of the United
States for the calling of a constitutional convention for any purpose,
List of Republicans Voting Against Constitituional Convention or Convention of
Almost all Republicans voted for this
bill to rescind the call for Constitutional
Convention in 2009 (see list below) but the Democrats killed it. 52-32
(Long before we had the number of Republicans we have in the Legislature now.)
See this link for votes:
So what has changed
Proof that liberals also are promoting a
convention of the states or constitutional convention.
Soros in Vermont: Leftist
billionaire behind state’s call to keep money out of politics
(at this link
which is still good
MONTPELIER, Vt. — Despite the Legislature’s
intent to keep money out of politics in Friday’s vote for a constitutional
convention, the move was a victory for billionaire George Soros, whose financial
backing of The Young Turks and Wolf
PAC helped influence state lawmakers.
George Soros is the billionaire
behind the Young Turks and Wolf PAC,
two prominent groups that seek to end corporate money in politics through a
state-led constitutional convention.
Vermont we were told it was impossible...but actually we did win on the
Senate floor, and it was because volunteers from all across the country called
in to constituents in Vermont, who then called their representatives. Now it has
passed the Vermont House — this is a huge moment,” Cenk Uygur, founder of
Wolf PAC, said during a weekend broadcast of the Young Turks.
its formation in 2011, Wolf PAC
has led the push for a 28th amendment to the U.S. Constitution that would
Citizens United, the 2010
Supreme Court ruling that allows corporations, organized labor unions and others
to donate money to campaigns.
["Citizens United" Supreme Court decision is considered to take away many of the
advantages of the Democrats so the Dems are terrified of it. See this link
to a liberal site which calls the decision terrifying and quotes Obama's
opposition to the decision.
Uygur’s Young Turks program, which promotes
Wolf PAC’s agenda,
is part of a
George Soros-funded network of nearly 70 progressive media outlets —
the Media Consortium — that includes AlterNet, Mother Jones and Democracy
Now. According to the Media Research Center, the Soros media empire
reaches more than 300 million people each month.
Below are Quotes from Wolf Pac (the
liberal organization funded by billionaire George Soros that are almost
identical to the talking points made by conservatives for a Convention of the
States at this link: http://www.wolf-pac.com/the_plan
Our Ultimate Goal:
To restore true, representative democracy in
the United States by pressuring our State
Legislators to pass a much needed Free
and Fair Elections
Amendment to our Constitution. There
are only 2 ways to amend the Constitution.
(1) Go through our Federal Government (2)
Go through our State Legislators via an
amendments convention of the states.
PAC believes that we can no longer
count on our Federal Government to do what
is in the best interest of the American
people due to the unfettered amount of money
they receive from outside organizations to
fund their campaigns...
Step 1: Believe
Convince enough people to
believe that we absolutely have the
power to change our country for the
better and that it is still possible to have
a government of, by, and for the people in
the United States.
"Soros-Funded Lefty Media Reach More Than 300 Million Every Month"
FUNDED BY GEORGE SOROS AND HIS OPEN SOCIETY INSTITUTE" There is a short
description of each of these organizations that will show you how liberal George
Soros is. There are way over 100 organization funded by Soros listed in this
The Texas GOP’s State
Republican Executive Committee (SREC) approved an anti-constitutional convention
resolution at their December meeting. The resolution said in part:
WHEREAS, Any convention called under the
authority of Article V of the U.S. Constitution to propose amendments to the
U.S. Constitution will be a “Constitutional Convention” regardless of any title
or labels attached to it, such as Constitutional Convention, Con-Con, Compact
for America, Convention of the States, or any other label;
Convention — We strongly oppose any constitutional convention to rewrite the
United States Constitution. We encourage the Texas Legislature to rescind its
1977 call for such a convention. We call upon other states to rescind their
votes for such a convention.
Tuesday, 23 December
- Title of article: "Texas GOP Leadership Passes Anti-Constitutional
Written by Debbie Pelley
Posted February 20, 2015 by Women Action Group